№ 21. End Date and Great Wayeb




This page is part of a series.

The second of these pages includes my rendition of the so-called “Mayan” calendar as 2160 orbits of Jupiters, which is the actual duration of the calendar (five years longer than 13 baktuns of 144,000 days)




READER BEWARE:  I abandoned this work long ago when I figured out no matter what I said I could not overcome the damage done by December 21, 2012 when the world was not destroyed as chicken little predicted. Finishing this page, and in particular, the work on the anti-cipher, is in the end, at least from my perspective, the most important work on this website. But speaking to an empty auditorium is no fun. So I work at the other stuff and wait for some kind of awakening or a fledging following that would be interested in seeing the proof of the Great Wayeb that adds five years to the end of December 16, 2013 (the actual “end” date). Until then, you’re on your own in this word jungle.




interlocking cogs

December 16, 2013 (the end date) versus 13 Baktuns (a Great Cycle)

What is the “end date” or last day of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar? December 21, 2012 is not the correct answer for a number of reasons discussed in this section. That is not the same thing as saying the GMT Correlation date is wrong. Allow me to repeat this critical point, to dispute an “end date” of December 21, 2012 is not the same thing as saying the GMT correlation date is wrong. In fact, I am convinced that the GMT correlation date is correct. Nevertheless, the correct calendar end date is December 16, 2013, which is “13 Ahau” expressed as in the Maya language. The difference between December 21, 2012 and December 16, 2013 is a misunderstanding of how the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar works as discussed in Understanding the Mechanics of the Long Count Calendar.


The Georgia Guidestones were erected in 1980, exactly 33 years before the correct Mesoamerican Long Count calendar end date in 2013.


Maya glyph for 13 Ahua

The problem is that 13 baktuns of 144,000 days is the length of a Great Cycle, which is a division of the calendar into fifths marking major cycles of destruction equal to 432 orbits of Jupiter. 144,000 days is 400 years of 360 days, which was the length of a year when this calendar was designed sometime before February 26th, 747 BC when Mars bumped up against Earth’s magnetosphere and changed the year to 365.2422 days. We are living at the end of the last of these five Great Cycles referred to as the Fifth World.

Maintenance Note: The following (original) discussion is included more or less verbatim in Why 2017 instead of 2018? Was 2017 the “Great Mistake”? and The GMT Correlation Date.

While it requires a rudimentary understanding of the design of the Mesoamerican Long Count  calendar (discussed in Understanding the Mechanics of the Long Count Calendar), to say that December 21, 2012 (the end of 13 baktuns) is the end of the calendar is roughly equivalent of saying “2012” is a date. It is not. The month and day are missing. It is more or less the same with the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar. Only the largest cog finished turning on December 21, 2012. But the design of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar involves three cogs. The other two cogs, more or less equivalent to our month and day, must continue turning until they too come to an end. When they do, the date is December 16, 2013.

The Wayeb and 13 Ahua glyphs have a common element (arguable an asteroid plummeting towards earth) , which I find more than a little interesting

The difference between December 21, 2012 and December 16, 2013 is comparable to saying 1999 was the end date of the twentieth century or second millennium, whereas it would be much more accurate to say that December 31, 1999 was the end. What does “1999” mean to someone trying to figure out on what day the twentieth century or second millennium ends? It ended December 31, 1999. Do you see the difference? The exact same thing happened with the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar.

I first became aware of this argument for the correct end date of December 16, 2013 while reading two obscure threads on “Godlike Productions,” which is a discussion forum for “UFOs, Conspiracy Theorists, and the Lunatic Fringe,” admittedly not a website description that readily lends itself to being a credible source for such an immensely important argument. Nevertheless, this is a singularly strong argument for a different end date than the popularly known and believed December 21, 2012. I have very carefully preserved these threads. They are exact copies, with only frivolous, irrelevant, or unsubstantial comments excluded and some very minor formatting changes for readability. This argument for a end date of December 16, 2013 is profoundly important, which is why I could not risk it being deleted from the Godlike Productions website.

The author of these posts is unknown, identified only as “Anonymous Coward” (which is a default user name) with the User ID 833688 from the United States. If anyone knows who this person is, please contact me.



Original End Date Argument (Carefully Preserved)

There are two posts. The first is dated 12/21/2009 09:12 PM. The second is dated 12/22/2012 07:29 PM.

To read the entire post, you must use the scroll bar in this window. These are highly formatted PDF documents and this is the only way I can include them.


FROM http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message948708/pg1

original post (2009)



FROM http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2091882/pg1

second post (2012)



The strength of this argument is also based on the belief that the end date, according to ancient Maya texts, must be 13 Ahau. This is also the argument of the more respectable Carl Calleman.


The end of the second post from 2012 references the work of Susan Lynne Schwenger and suggests that she has arrived at this very same end date using an entirely different approach, but the links provided are now dead. A simple Google search provides several links which preserve her discussion of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar end date:



This does indeed appear to be two different approaches arriving at the same conclusion, which is that the correct end date of the Mesoamerican (Mayan) Long Count calendar is actually December 16, 2013. This begs the question of why would the designers of this calendar select an end date five days before the Winter solstice? I believe this was done specifically so that we would ask this very question. Knowing the correct end date does not change the argument that not even the ancients would make such a date public. It had to be obfuscated.


Ending the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar five days before the winter solstice is an important clue that this is not in fact the actual end date. Much like five days must be aded to December 16, 2013 to arrive at the Winter Solstice, five years must also be added. Five years is the difference between 13 baktuns and 2160 orbits of Jupiter. I refer to these five years as the Great Wayeb.


Mayan shamans who are alive today have said it was always “y un poco.” They just do not know how much more time should be added. If the actual end date is somehow doubly obfuscated, an elaborate anti-cipher is required to assure people in the distant future that they are correctly interpreting the designer’s intent. After all, the future of mankind is at stake here. And the designers of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar were most assuredly infinitely more intelligent than the Mayans. They left that anti-cipher for us.






And there is a serious  year zero problem with 2012.

A baktun (properly b’ak’tun /ˈbɑːkˌtn/;[1] Mayan pronunciation: [ɓakʼ ˈtun]) is 20 katun cycles of the ancient Maya Long Count Calendar. It contains 144,000 days, equal to 394.26 tropical years. The Classic period of Maya civilization occurred during the 8th and 9th baktuns of the current calendrical cycle. The current baktun started on — December 21, 2012 using the GMT correlation.

J. Eric S. Thompson pointed out that it is erroneous to say that a Long Count date of, for example, is in the “9th baktun”, analogous to describing the year 209 AD as in the “2nd century AD”. However, the practice is so well established among Maya epigraphers and other students of the Maya that to change it would cause more harm than its perpetuation.[2] So the current practice of referring to the current baktun as ”baktun 13” or “thirteenth baktun” may stand, even though it is properly the fourteenth baktun. Alternatively, the first baktun could instead be referred to as the zeroeth to avoid this ambiguity.  — Wikipedia





Archaeologists have found carvings in a stone staircase at the La Corona dig site in Guatemala which confirm the ‘end date’ of the Maya calendar, December 21, 2012.

A newly discovered Mayan text reveals the “end date” for the Mayan calendar, becoming only the second known document to do so. But unlike some modern people, ancient Maya did not expect the world to end on that date, researchers said.

“This text talks about ancient political history rather than prophecy,” Marcello Canuto, the director of Tulane University Middle America Research Institute, said in a statement. “This new evidence suggests that the 13 bak’tun date was an important calendrical event that would have been celebrated by the ancient Maya; however, they make no apocalyptic prophecies whatsoever regarding the date.”


An ancient Maya text has emerged from the jungles of Guatemala confirming the so-called “end date” of the Maya calendar, Dec. 21, 2012.

Considered one of the most significant hieroglyphic finds in decades, the 1,300-year-old inscription contains only the second known reference to the “end date,” but does not predict doomsday.

It is only the second known inscription which confirms this ‘end date’.

PRALC archaeologists, who in 2012 discovered a Maya text containing only the second known reference to the so-called “end date” of the Maya calendar, toda

Welcome to the wesbite for the archaeological project known by its Spanish name Proyecto Regional Arqueológico La Corona (PRALC).




Stephanie Pappas, Live Science Contributor |

                Ancient Text Confirms Mayan Calendar End Date (see also National Geographic’s In Search of the Lost Empire of the Maya)

2013 Apr 11

a series of high-resolution AMS 14C dates on a wooden lintel








The Prophecy of Chilam Balam

This section is not yet written. There are only two sources. This needs to be much better researched and documented.

Did the Mayans walk down to the local 7-11 and buy a new Long Count calendar every 25,621.488 years, or are Maya experts who think the calendar was designed around the end date correct? This section discusses on what basis one may assume that the end of the fifth Great Cycle does in fact correspond to the end of the Fifth World.



Dec. 16th, 2013 (13 Ahau)

Katun- 144,000 days

At the end of the 13 Ahau Katun 

Hunab-ku= Galactic Center

The prophecy of Chilam Balam, the singer, of Cabal-chen, 4 Mani. (below)

On <the day> 13 Ahau the katun will end in the time of the Itzá, in the time of /

Tancah , lord. There is the sign of Hunab-ku 6 on high. The raised wooden standard shall come. It shall be displayed to the world, that the world may be enlightened, lord. There has been a beginning of strife, there has been a beginning of rivalry, when the priestly man shall come to bring the sign in time to come, lord. A quarter of a league, a league he comes. You see the mut 9-bird surmounting the raised wooden standard. A new day shall dawn in the north, in the west.

Itzamná Kauil shall rise. Our lord comes, Itzá. Our elder brother comes, men of Tantun. Receive your guests, the bearded men, the men of the east, the bearers of the sign of God, lord. Good indeed is the word of God that comes to us. The day of our regeneration comes. You do not fear the world, Lord, you are the only God who created us. It is sufficient, then, that the word of God is good, lord. <He is> the guardian of our souls. He who receives him, who has truly believed, he will go to heaven with him. Nevertheless <at> the beginning were the two-day men.
Let us exalt his sign on high, let us exalt it <that we may gaze upon it today with the raised standard. Great is the discord that arises today. The First Tree of the World is restored; it is displayed to the world. This is the sign of Hunab-ku on high. Worship it, Itzá. You shall worship today his sign on high. You shall worship it furthermore with true good will, and you shall worship the true God today, lord. You shall be converted to the word of Hunab-ku, lord; it came from heaven. Oh it is he who speaks to you! Be admonished indeed, Itzá. They will correct their ways who receive him in their hearts in another katun, lord.
Believe in my word itself, I am Chilam Balam, and I have interpreted the entire message of the true God the world; it is heard in every part of the world, lord, the word of God, the Lord of heaven and earth. Very good indeed is his word in heaven, lord.
He is ruler over us; he is the true God over our souls. /

But those to whom <the word> is brought, lord: thrice weighed down is their strength, the younger brothers native to the land. Their hearts are submerged . Their hearts are dead in their carnal sins. They are frequent backsliders, the principal ones who spread , Nacxit Xuchit in the carnal sin of his companions, the two-day rulers. crookedly on their thrones; crookedly in carnal sin. Two-day men they call them. For two days their seats, their cups, their hats. They are the unrestrained lewd ones of the day, the unrestrained lewd ones of the night, the rogues of the world. They twist their necks, they wink their eyes, they slaver at the mouth, at the rulers of the land, lord. Behold, when they come, there is no truth in the words of the foreigners to the land. They tell very solemn and mysterious things, the sons of the men of Seven-deserted-buildings, the offspring of the women of Seven-deserted-buildings, lord.

Who will be the prophet, who will be the priest who shall interpret truly the word of the book?

[link to sacred-texts.com]



COPIED FROM July 4, 1776, Sirius, and the Mayan Connection

Essentially, the cycle of thirteen katuns was for the Maya a kind of mundane astrology, not an astrology of the individual, but of the society and its history. In the several books of Chilam Balam, the influences of the thirteen katuns are stated, usually as a description of historical events that occurred during previous cycles. It becomes clear to the reader, however, that the Maya always expected history to repeat itself and it is also obvious that the ancient Maya were not very optimistic about their fate. Most of these “fates” are negative, but then this may have been was how life was for them. The delineations below are a composite taken from the Book of Chilam Balam of Chumayel and the Codex Perez and the Book of Chilam Balam of Mani.

Katun 13-Ahau: This is a time of total collapse where everything is lost. It is the time of the judgment of God. There will be epidemics and plagues and then famine. Governments will be lost to foreigners and wise men, and prophets will be lost.

The Maya Katun Prophecies by Bruce Scofield





Comet ISON

What you are looking at here is comet ISON, Venus (to the left), and Earth. This actually happened and the date was December 16, 2013, precisely the date I argue was the actual “end date” or last day of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar (though I did not know this at the time). The distance from both Venus and Earth to Comet ISON is precisely 0.51 AU (astronomical units).

Comet ISON triangle

I do not remember the exact day I first saw what you can see in the above image. I was using the “Comet ISON model” developed by Solar System Scope. As I moved the model slowly back and forth through time, I noticed something that shocked me. Comet ISON, Venus, and Earth were going to form a perfect equilateral triangle (not unlike the Pythagorean tetractys) in space with sides equal to 0.51 AU. This is equivalent to the angle of the sides of the Great Pyramid of Giza. I intuitively knew at the time that this was some kind of a message, but from who? And why?

At the time, there was a credible observer (BPEarthWatch) who felt as if the comet was being guided by a spaceship as it entered the inner solar system. Here are a couple representative YouTube videos:

Now before I go any further, it is important to realize that comet ISON was a rare occurrence of a comet originating from deep space. This is why there was a NASA Comet ISON Observing Campaign (CIOC). You can click on the following image to read the article written by Matthew Knight:

NASA Comet ISON Observing Campaign-25

I sent an email inquiry to the astronomers who created Solar System Scope. They assured me that their Comet ISON model used the very latest JPL (ephemeris) data to compute the comet’s orbital path. This is not guess work; this is a very exacting science. To be perfectly blunt, I believe that Comet ISON was deliberately set into motion and precisely guided for perhaps an extended period of time for the purpose of confirming the Mesoamerican (Mayan) Long Count calendar end date of December 16, 2013 by referencing the slope of the Great Pyramid of Giza. Sounds crazy, no?

As I said above, I first saw this back in 2012 as it was happening. What I did not know at the time was that it was occurring on the correct end date of the Mesoamerican Long Count Calendar. I am not a statistician, but if such comets appear on average only once every two hundreds years or more as documented in the above article, the odds of it forming a triangle with two 0.51 AU (51 degree) sides on the last day of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar which began so many thousands of years ago must be astoundingly high.


we are not alone

Comet ISON was a wakeup call. A reminder that the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar is everything everyone thought it was prior to December 21, 2012. For anyone listening, it is also a message that we are not alone, and never have been.

The remainder of this article documents the precise timing of this event. At precisely 4:10 PM on December 15, 2013, Venus approached ISON to a distance of 0.51 AU:

Venus reaches 0.51 AU from ISON-19

Late in the same day at precisely 8:32 PM Earth approached to within 0.51 AU of Comet ISON. So by late in the day before the end of the Mayan Long Count Calendar both Earth and Venus form a triangle with ISON at the top and both planets at a distance of 0.51 AU equal to the angle of the sides of the Great Pyramid of Giza.

Earth reaches 0.51 AU from ISON-15

Earth was the first to move outside of the 0.51 AU range of ISON on December 16, 2013 at precisely 1:16 PM

Earth leaves 0.51 AU from ISON-21

Venus stayed in the 0.51 AU range of ISON for a couple of days until December 18 at precisely 1:36 AM.

Venus leaves 0.51 AU from ISON-23













The Zero Year Problem










The end date is not understood in large part because it was deliberately obfuscated at its inception, when the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar was designed thousands of years ago. Living shamans have publically stated that they always knew the Long Count calendar ended in 2012 “y un poco” (and a little [more time]), only none of them knew how long “y un poco” was. The truth is that it ended on December 16, 2013 “y un poco”




The Five Unlucky Days

Morning the loss of their perfect 360 day year and not wanting to really recognize that the orbital period of Earth had changed, many ancient people simply added “five unlucky days” to the end of their existing 360 day calendars. The Mayans referred to these “unlucky five days” as the Wayeb. Over 2,000 years later, these “five unlucky days” are still an important part of Mayan culture.

The Haab’ was made up of eighteen months of twenty days each plus a period of five days (“nameless days”) at the end of the year known as Wayeb’ (or Uayeb in 16th-century orthography). The five days of Wayeb’ were thought to be a dangerous time. Foster (2002) writes, “During Wayeb, portals between the mortal realm and the Underworld dissolved. No boundaries prevented the ill-intending deities from causing disasters.” To ward off these evil spirits, the Maya had customs and rituals they practiced during Wayeb’. For example, people avoided leaving their houses and washing or combing their hair.



So you see the practice of adding five whatever to calendars is thousands of years old. The “Great Wayeb” adds five years to the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar. It gave us the time to discover the truth herein disclosed.

There are living Mayan shamen who say the end of the Long Count calendar was always the end date “y un poco” (“and a little”). They just don’t know what a little means. This is where knowing the actual end date of December 16, 2013 is critically important. It was a clue the designers of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar left behind. They lived not long after Mars bumped up against our magnetosphere and changed Earth’s orbital period.





The Importance of the No. 5 to the Design of the Mesoamerican Long Count Calendar

In this image borrowed from Did Extraterrestrials Create the Maya Calendar?, the 20 day glyphs in the outermost circle of the Aztec calendar stone are divided into fifths. I had wanted to make this image myself before stumbling across this one. I am not very talented with image processing, so this one will have to do. The only thing I would change was to put the points of the star on even day boundaries. The resulting four “days” in each of the five section correspond to the four 108 cycles of Jupiter in each Great Cycle of 432 orbits of Jupiter.









And is it not at least possible that the fact that there are five Great Cycles is yet another “hint” that the number five is profoundly important to understanding the design of the calendar. This is also evident in the Mayan counting system in which five is represented bar a bar instead of five dots.






Wayeb glyph

The Great Wayeb of Five Years

The solstices and equinoxes were unimaginably important to the ancients. So why end the most important calendar of all time five days before the Winter Solstice? This is indeed a very important question. It practically cries out, “Add five!.” At the time the calendar was designed, the end time was some two and a half millennia into the future. Would we remember the “unlucky five days?” Would we understand the clue? Certainly we would know from their architecture the important of the equinoxes and solstices. This is what makes the end date of December 16, 2013 so appropriate as a clue to add five years also. The obfuscation of the actual end date was at once necessary (because even in their won time this was some of the most guarded information in the history of mankind), but at the same time threatened the possibility that their message would be lost in time. Something more was needed, some way of letting us know for sure the intended message was to add five years to the end date. This is what I call the anti-cipher.


Wayeb glyph

The Great Wayeb (five years) from December 16, 2013 to December 16, 2018







What is an Anti-Cipher?

A cipher is generally defined as “a secret or disguised way of writing; a code.” The Enigma machine developed by the Germans in WWII is a classic example of a cipher. Wikipedia defines a cipher as follows: “In cryptography, a cipher (or cypher) is an algorithm for performing encryption or decryption—a series of well-defined steps that can be followed as a procedure.” The problem with encoding or encrypting knowledge about the end times intended for people who will be alive thousands of years into the future is that the knowledge could be lost. This possibility requires what I call an “anti-cipher.”


Anti-ciphers are included in messages from the ancients that are so profoundly important for the future of mankind that they require a special means of confirming that the encoded message has been correctly interpreted.


Basically, the anti-cipher says “as difficult as this may be for you to believe, you have correctly decoded our message to you. Believe it!” Both the encoded message and its anti-cipher are hidden from view, but once discovered reinforce each other. I did not discover The First Great Anti-Cipher built into the design of the Great Pyramid of Giza, but I am the first to recognize it as an ingenious anti-cipher (one that anticipates massive earthquakes before the end time). I did discover The Second Great Anti-Cipher built into the design of the Maya Long Count calendar. It tells us when to expect the axial tilt, which is sometime around the end of 2018. These two anti-ciphers are the key to understanding our past, present, and future as an intelligent species. I recently added The Third Great Anti-Cipher to the № 81. “The Mark of the Beast” Number 666 page.  See also The Capstone section of the № 22. Modern Apocalyptic Artifacts page.







Leo Tanguma’s 666 “Add five years!” hidden message

The Second Great Anti-Cipher

The First Great Anti-Cipher tells us what to expect, which is an axial tilt. The Second Great Anti-Cipher is discussed in this section. It tells us when to expect it, which is sometime around the end of 2018.


The designers included what I call an “anti-cipher” though, so that one could be sure the actual unit of measurement is the orbital period of Jupiter, which for us is 11.8618 years. I do not mean to suggest that the orbital period of Jupiter has changed since the calendar was designed, but the length of a year most certainly has changed since then.

So let us ignore this possibility and compute the length of a Great Cycle using days.

144,000 x 13 = 1,872,000
1,872,000 ÷ 365.242 = 5,125

And now let us compute the length of the entire Mesoamerican Long Count calendar using days.

1,872,000 x 5 = 9,360,000
9,360,000 ÷ 365.2422 = 25,626

The precise number is:

Mesoamerican Long Count Calendar =  25626.830634576179861 years

Now let us compute the length of the entire Mesoamerican Long Count calendar using orbits of Jupiter:

11.8618 x 2160 = 25621.488 years


The difference is:

  25626.830634576179861 – 25621.488 = 5.342634576179861 years

Instead of the 5.25 “unlucky five days” of the yearly Wayeb, it is 5.34 years or what I call the Great Wayeb. This is your anti-cipher. This is the designers of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar telling you, “You got it. The actual unit of measurement is orbits of Jupiter and much like you need to add five days to December 16, 2013 to get to the winter solstice, you need to add five years to get to the start of the grand solar minimum that is about to rock your world.”

There is another way of looking at this anti-cipher. A baktun of 144,000 days is 400 years using the old calendar of 360 days. If you multiply those 400 years by 5.2422 the answer is 2096.88, which divided by 365.2422 is 5.741067160366464. Again, we are pointed to five. The difference is always five, the same as the five unlucky days added to the solar calendar after February 26th, 747 BC. Add five! is the message.

The Mayan who painted those crazy looking murals at the Denver International Airport (the welcome center for the extensive underground tunnel systems in Colorado and throughout the Western United States of America), knows all about the extended end date or Great Wayeb. See Leo Tanguma (DIA murals) for a discussion. I’ve read all of Leo Tanguma’s interviews. He’s a damn (good) liar. He knows. He points to the Sun, creates a plus sign with no less than the feathers of the sacred resplendent quetzal bird (ADD), and then point to an outstretch hand (FIVE) with the last of the three sixes in 666 highlighted. If you think I am imagining this, so be it. You probably think 2160 orbits of Jupiter is a figment of my imagination, too. I tell you what, if you’re right, I’ve taken “confirmation bias” (or Rorschach tests) to a whole new level. But I’m telling you, Leo Tanguma knows. I can assure you of that.

Copied from the discussion of the second Great Anto-cipher…

The wonder of it all doesn’t stop here. Using the accepted GMT correlation date, moving forward to 2018, and then backwards (as must be done in this order), the start of the fifth and last Great Cycle in the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar (3106 BC, but which is widely believed to be August 11, 3114 BC) is in perfect agreement with the start of the Yuga calendar of India. (April 20, 3105 BC). It is also close to the approximate the date Nathan Hoffman arrives at for the biblical Deluge (3000 BC) based on a new understanding of Old Testament genealogies as discussed on the biblical Deluge page. In mentioning the later, I am not waxing religious. I think those genealogies were specifically intended to communicate the approximate year of the end of the last world when Proto-Saturn exploded, the axis tilted to an unnatural 23.5°, and the world flooded.




Research Notes


“I believe this is the end date based on the Mayan Model as put forth by Dr. Calleman, and as presented by Ian Xel Lungold. BOWMAN has a few threads on this.”