PAGE STATUS: This is now very old work. Since originally writing this, I have moved the discussion of the biblical deluge to page № 38. The explosion of Proto-Saturn on April 20, 3105 BC, and the subsequent biblical deluge. The sequence of events as presented on this page remains logically sound.
LAST UPDATE: September 10. 2020
The Sequence of Events
This page presents “The Cosmic Drama” (a phrase borrowed from Immanuel Velikovsky) as a logical sequence of events as opposed to an actual timeline. The remainder of the page discusses issues relevant to determining what happened when and in what order (i.e. the actual logic involved).
Prior to the comparative mythologists Immanuel Velikovsky and his star pupil, David Talbott (of The Thunderbolts Project™), this cosmic drama was remembered only as drawings on rocks (petroglyphs) and in grossly misunderstood myths
As stated in the opening sentence of Immanuel Velikovsky’s On Saturn And The Flood,
Worlds in Collision comprises only the last two acts of a cosmic drama — one that occurred in the middle of the second millennium before the present era [the comet Venus responsible for the Exodus]; the other during the eighth and early part of the seventh century before the present era [the planet Mars which gave rise to the Roman Empire]
Assigning times to these events is a subject practically no one wants to address. Why exactly that is I cannot say. It perplexes me to no end because nothing is more important than knowing when Proto-Saturn exploded. Second only to Proto-Saturn exploding is the birth of Venus. I vigorously maintain that these two events must be tied to the two dates 9500 BC (the end of the Third World) and 3100 BC (the beginning of our’s, the Fifth World) that loom so large in our solar system’s past. The fact is that the birth of Venus was in 9500 BC when the Earth was still in close proximity to Proto-Saturn, which is what brought an untimely end to a civilization far in advance of our own. These people, who were the giants, had a worldwide culture the only remaining evidence for which is the polygonal, megalithic structures whose sophistication we still cannot fathom. About 108 orbits of Jupiter later (1281 years), Earth assumed a new, solo orbit around the sun at one AU – 5 days. The entire Fourth World (more than 5124 years) enjoyed relative stability. Then at the start of the Fifth World in which we now live, the planets in the solar system began to drift apart. It would not be until after March 23, 687 BC, more than 2,400 years into the future, before the planets would settle back down into the present configuration. Some time around 3106 BC our primordial sun Proto-Saturn exploded (think nova) followed by the seven days of light recorded in Genesis. Shortly thereafter, water from Proto-Saturn flooded the entire world in what is generally referred to as the Biblical Deluge. These were not one-off events. We live on a defective planet. Our solar system routinely reconfigures itself.
What follows in not a timeline. It is a logical sequence of events.
Here then are the main acts of this “cosmic drama” in chronological order.
- BIRTH OF VENUS: The birth of Venus was observed by mankind. I suspect this happened at 10, 793 BC, the exact middle (Great Cycle 2.5) of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, though I have yet to develop this idea in writing
- POLAR CONFIGURATION: The polar configuration of planets (what Wallace Thornhill variously calls “an axial column of satellites” or “a shish kabob of planets”) was formed anew (this has happened before and will happen again, perhaps in our lifetime) including a bright white Venus closest to Proto-Saturn, the red Mars in front of Venus and Earth, in that order. The Polar Configuration is discussed in detail on the Catastrophism 101 page
- THOUSANDS OF YEAR ELAPSE: A very long period of time elapses during which the ancients recorded all the “archetypes” first noticed by Immanuel Velikovsky and then studiously cataloged by David Talbott
- DISINTEGRATION OF THE POLAR CONFIGURATION: This is David Talbott’s term “dismemberment” is somewhat morbid. The polar configuration slowly began to drift apart into new orbits. We know this happened before Proto-Saturn exploded because otherwise Proto-Saturn obscured Jupiter in the polar configuration and the ancients could not have witnessed the next event which is an encounter of the two gas giants
- PROTO-SATURN EXPLODES: An encounter with Jupiter (observed by the ancients) causes Proto-Saturn to explode (think nova). Among all the comparative mythologists and within the electric universe school of thought, only Jno Cook is willing to date the explosion of Proto-Saturn. He places it at precisely 3147 BC. I have made email inquiries to Michael Armstrong at The Thunderbolts Project™ and was told that David Talbott and others there are “comfortable with a date as late as Jno Cook’s.” It was made perfectly clear to me at the time that these men are not interested in dating the explosion of Proto-Saturn. I seriously doubt that. I think it is just too controversial for them. It hurts the brain, too. In the past I have thought I could provide the answer to my readers, but now I seek only to provide the arguments for or against either of these possibilities. The only thing I can say with absolute certainty is that Proto-Saturn exploded in either 9500 BC or 3100 BC. It must be one of these two dates. I think it is at least possible that Proto-Saturn exploded in 9500 BC because nothing else can explain that level of destruction (especially the intense heat). Finding the answer to the question of 3100 BC versus 9500 BC has become something of an obsession for me. I think it is an immensely important question
- BIBLICAL DELUGE: In the year 3105-3106 BC Noah boards his Ark days before the biblical Deluge which is the result of a 30° axial tilt to the present 23.5° (this precise information is encoded into the design of the Great Pyramid of Giza). The general belief that the biblical flood occurred in 2345 BC is a grand Jewish deception (discussed below) intended to deny the possibility that Christ Jesus could be the long-sought Jewish Messiah.
- COMET VENUS: This information is from Worlds in Collision. On two occasions separated by 52 years, the comet Venus approached very close to earth. Using somewhat colorful language, Jewish writers recorded the first of these two events as the “Exodus” circa 1495 BC. The second of these two events circa 1450 BC was immortalized in Joshua 10:13 which reads, “And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.” This second approach of the comet Venus is remembered all over the world as a “long day.”
- MARS: A series of close encounters with Mars separated by 15 years caused even more destruction than the comet Venus and was punctuated by the February 26, 747 BC encounter in which Mars bumped up against Earth’s magnetosphere and changed our planet’s orbital period from a perfect 360 days to 365.24 days. The Mayans remember these “unlucky” five days as the Wayeb. The last of these encounters was 60 years later on March 23, 687 BC (which is easy to remember because Mars also has a 687 day orbital period)
- 600 BC: The concept of 600 BC is critically important for understanding my work (read your reality). I trace the origin of the progeny of Jove to this period. It is only three generations after the last encounter with Mars. The solar system has stabilized for the first time in thousands of years. Knowledge of the cycles of destruction is widespread at this time. This will change.
Mars is the closing act in this cosmic drama, but it is a very climactic ending. Very few people understand that the repeated perturbations of Mars caused more damage and destruction than the comet Venus.
Mars gave rise to the Roman Empire
The people who survived the last great series of catastrophes of this cosmic drama, most notably the Phrygians in Central Anatolia (modern-day Turkey), brought forward into the new world in which we now live ancient knowledge about these natural cycles of destruction that ended the last world. This is the knowledge that the progeny of Jove possess. It is what gives them their real power.
This was the time of myth-making, including especially the Osiris myth. Only the myths are true, as the life work of Immanuel Velikovsky, David Talbott, and others prove. As a species we suffer from amnesia because we live on a defective planet, too close to the gravitational behemoth Sirius. Our solar system is in constant turmoil. Venus was not the first new rocky planet. Nor will it be the last.
The solar system has reconfigured itself countless times in the past. Rocky planets have come and gone. Do you think for a moment this process is over? It is not. These catastrophes will never stop. They are continually visited upon us because of our binary dance with the Sirius star system. It routinely destabilizes our solar system.
This is what is happening. And the Sirius star system is not going away. How long has this been going on? Given the very same evidence that mainstream science and academia are not willing to look at, I think a conservative estimate is millions of years. Billions is not out of the question. This is why the progeny of Jove will stop at nothing to “bridge this gap,” to survive what is about to happen with vast hordes of supplies and the technological innovations of billions of individual human lives. They mean to hit the ground running and get us off this planet. If you think they are evil, you are wrong. They just don’t care what we think. We are the walking dead to them.
The Rationale for this Logical Sequence
One of the key tenants One of my greatest discoveries has been that the so-called “Late Bronze Age collapse” was w worldwide event.
The Late Bronze Age collapse was caused by the comet Venus
This period of history has been grossly misunderstood. Yet it is the subject of Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey, which is akin to saying it is the period of time to which the progeny of Jove trace their origins.
And guess what? “The Phoenicians came to prominence following the collapse of most major cultures during the Late Bronze Age.” —Wikipedia, Phoenicia. The following description from the first paragraph in Wikipedia’s Late Bronze Age collapse can be attributed to one thing and one thing only.
also get clip about nordic bronze age it has 1200 BC also and what happens if we apply the shift in years to 1495 and 1450. might it not bring these events close to one another
The Comet Venus
The Roman goddess Venus, the Greek Aphrodite, and the Phoenician Astarte are one and the same. What they represent to the progeny of Jove is their ascendency to world dominance. It was the Phoenicians who orchestrated the “Sea Peoples” attack on Egypt, effectively ending Egypt’s control of the Levant, as Alexander the “Great” (such uses of Great always signify the progeny of Jove) would later do to the Persian Empire. “There can be only one.”
The Late Bronze Age collapse was a transition period in the Near East, Anatolia, the Aegean region, North Africa, the Caucasus, the Balkans and the Eastern Mediterranean from the Late Bronze Age to the Early Iron Age, a transition which historians believe was violent, sudden, and culturally disruptive. The palace economy of the Aegean region and Anatolia that characterised the Late Bronze Age disintegrated, transforming into the small isolated village cultures of the Greek Dark Ages. [bold-red emphasis added]
I find it utterly absurd to attribute this disruption of the entire Eastern Mediterranean to some marauding pirates. Other than my discussion on page № 35. The Problem with Time prior to March 23, 687 BC, I cannot explain why there appears to be a time discrepancy, except perhaps that the destruction was so significant that it took many decades to recover.
What the “Sea People” represent is an attempt by the Phoenicians, the progeny of Jove in their day, markedly the first such attempt by the progeny of Jove, at worldwide
Now if you care about this subject, please take the time to watch the following video, the very best YouTube video available on this subject, so that I can discuss its implications.
History Documentary – Secrets of the Aegean Apocalypse from the Educational Documentary YouTube Channel
The Evidence for Catastrophism
Must use SOTT article here
Huge Spike in Ice Core Temperature Records
The correlations are still valid even if the events assigned to them are no longer supported…
The last Heinrich events (h2, H0), Oldest Dryas, Bølling oscillation, Older Dryas, Allerød oscillation, and the Younger Dryas are a kaleidoscope of names for the same thing. They are the record of temperature variations on Earth while
Here is the same temperature chart with Mesoamerican Long Count calendar “Great Cycles” or “Mayan ages” overlaid.
There are five 108 orbits of Jupiter cycles of destruction recorded here. Here is a condensed version of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar table showing the dates of these five events.
REDO THIS TABLE WITH DESCRIPTIONS OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE TEMPERATURE RECORD
Formation of the Sahara Desert
HERE IS A VERY DISTINCT WAY OF DATING WHAT HAPPENED IN 3200 BC
FROM BELOW VENUS OF “sEKHMET” (SEE ELECTIC UNIVERSE YOUTUBE) “WAS SAID THAT HER BREATH FORMED THE DESERT”
NO ONE ELSE HAS THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In Egyptian mythology, Sekhmet /’s?k?m?t/ or Sachmis (/’sÊkm?s/; also spelled Sakhmet, Sekhet, or Sakhet, among other spellings) was originally the warrior goddess as well as goddess of healing for Upper Egypt, when the kingdom of Egypt was divided. She is depicted as a lioness, the fiercest hunter known to the Egyptians. It was said that her breath formed the desert.
THESE ARGUMENTS CUT FROM 9500 BC PAGE…
The Biodiversity of Life in the Oceans
The following “Saturn the flood & Origin of the oceans” from the Greg Jay YouTubechannel is of particular interest to the present discussion:
All Greg Jay is doing is reading notes written by Velikovsky, but the order of presentation is highly effective. The original papers can be read at “In The Beginnings” in Velikovsky’s library. I like Greg jay, but I warn the reader that he is an acquired taste.
“something came close enough to Earth to melt rock”
Czech Mate – “Confirmation” of the Younger Dryas impact event
The basic logic runs this…
- If 3100 BC was only an axial tilt (arguably provable), then you must look backward in the temperature record for spiking heat.
- That takes you back to 9500 BC and the Younger Dryas, but the memory of this event in every culture on the planet is too recent. It simply could not have been 11,500 years ago.
- Ergo not only radiometry had failed us because it is infused with uniformitarian assumptions, so has ice core temperature data (think meltwater pulses) 9500BC is a bad date. It simply must be sooner so in the end this is all about exposing yet another “scientific” field of endeavor as insane
The polar configuration
- Mesopotamia could not have survived so intact. The same could be said about the other cultures mention in the “See also” not above COMPARE TO 9500 DAMAGE AREA
- supported by all the advanced thinkers on the subject including notably David Talbott of The Thunderbolts Project™ and Wallace Thornhill of the Electric Universe, and Jno Cook
- start dates of the two ancient calendars
Bronze Age Iron Weapons