Did Pythagoras Live?

If what we are actually dealing with here is the Phrygians who survived the last axial tilt en masse, then who is Pythagoras? Did he actually live? To answer this question, we must study the history of Rosicrucianism.


Roman Collegia



The Pythagoreans in Central and South America

The Incas of Peru regarded the planet Jupiter as “the guardian and ruler of the empire.”  —Varchive

Before the Knights Templar, what I call the “Progeny of Pythagoras” on this website were based in South America for a thousand years from where they orchestrated the fall of the Roman Empire they had created, while creating yet another “Inca” Empire, and appearing to the Maya as gods (see The Progeny of Pythagoras in South America).



I think Julius Caesar was an aberration for the Progeny of Pythagoras, one that prompted them to search the world for a new home. They landed in South America where they met and subsequently exterminated the elongated skull people (well maybe not all of them), eventually starting the Inca Empire before returning to Europe in time for the Spanish to “discover” the Americas and erase any visage of the Progeny of Pythagoras ever having been there. 1492 is such a clever date.

1492 BC, April 19 – Disturbances by Venus (Typhon), Exodus, 20 years of cloud cover, 360-day year, axial inclination to 30 degrees.

At 8:00 in the morning of 3 August 1492, Columbus departed from Castilian Palos de la Frontera (on the river Saltes, at the confluence of the rivers Rio Tinto and Rio Odiel). Columbus and his crew embarked on a voyage to find a shorter route to India and the Orient with three medium-sized ships, the Niña (real name Santa Clara), the Pinta, and the Santa Maria.  —Wikipedia

In total and complete harmony with the works of Immanuel Velikovsky, it marks the last axial tilt which put Earth into this unnatural inclination which it apparently never rested for any appreciable period of time before, at least not going back at least tens of thousands of years. We know the last axial tilt as the Exodus. Venus was bumping up against our magnetosphere resulting in a massive human migration looking for new, safer lands to inhabit. You may chose to believe these two 1492s are mere coincidence, but they are not

The last act of this drama was when the Progeny of Pythagoras, who is narrating this tale, decides to appear to the Mayans as gods, educate them while learning everything they knew (which was considerable, hence their friendly tactics when approaching a people they knew full well they would have to decimate generations later), and then decapitating Mayan culture by either killing them, forcing them to migrate to North America, or both anyone who had more than a basic knowledge of their operations there. This is the same thing they did to the elongated skulls. They effectively erased them from history. And from South America they would orchestrate the destruction of the Roman empire they created until there was little or no possibility of any people who had even the faintest knowledge of the coming destruction of the planet. They wiped the slate clean.

The Jesuits and the “black pope” are the remnants of the Progeny of Pythagoras in the Catholic Church. They control that church as assuredly as those in control of the granite tunnels in Colorado are also in charge of the United States of America.

This transition from direct control of the Church in Rome to an “outside” order would later be reflected in the U.S.A. when the Freemasons relinquished direct control of that country through it’s Presidency and created the CIA as an alternative means of control. This occurred around the time JFK. They killed him to show everyone of importance that they may have relinquished the Presidency but not their direct control of the country.

This is the history of the people who are now in control of the granite tunnels in the Front Range batholith that I refer to as the “Vault Profound” using the terminology of a famous Latin poet. And that history is savage. Do not underestimate the brutal propensities these men harbor towards this crop of human beings. If nothing else, they are bored with us, like a child becomes when he fully realizes the limitation of his favorite toy.

Here then is the blow by blow written as Socrates’ Last Tale in Hamlet’s Mill. My approach will be to frame for you the following passage always shown as a quote with a gray background. I will begin at the same place as this chapter of the book. Most times this takes the form of one or two sentences as I discuss the evidence before us. I am unapologetic about the outrageousness of my claims because I just found proof for something I deliberated buried in myself, not wanting to sound too out-of-control, shall we say. Socrates was in the company of the Pythagoreans shortly before his reputed death. They would not allow the loss of such a man under ANY circumstances. It’s all a ruse.


This is nothing less than Socrates telling the reader that no one has a knife to his throat. I am as confident of my deconstruction of this prose work as I am of anything, including the coming axial tilt. The translation I am using of Plato’s Phaedo is by Benjamin Jowett. on The Internet Classics Archive website.


The Death of Socrates was a Ruse

He was about to leave for Peru. He death was faked. We learning from the introduction to  Socrates’ Last Tale in Hamlet’s Mill. “Socrates is quietly moving into the other world.” Not that “other world.” The Americas! He was fascinated by it. Most likely Socrates was part of the effort to carefully document what happened to the Roman Empire after Julius Caesar, who was murdered by the Progeny of Pythagoras in order to expedite the natural dissolution of the Italian people without the Progeny of Pythagoras leading them. In other words, they abandoned Rome and left it to rot. Only “observers” such as Socrates were left behind to document the inevitable decline. Plato is talking to the ages. This is a rare and precious event.


Death of Socrates

Socrates’ death is described at the end of Plato’s Phaedo, although Plato was not himself present at the execution. As to the veracity of Plato’s account it seems possible he made choice of a number of certain factors perhaps omitting others in the description of the death, as the Phaedo description does not describe progress of the action of the poison (Gill 1973) in concurrence with modern descriptions. Phaedo states, after drinking the poison, he was instructed to walk around until his legs felt numb. After he lay down, the man who administered the poison pinched his foot; Socrates could no longer feel his legs. The numbness slowly crept up his body until it reached his heart.

Socrates chose to cover his face during the execution (118 a6 Phaedo).

Phaedo (61c-69e) states Socrates stated All of philosophy is training for death.

His last words

Socrates last words are thought to be ironic (C. Gill 1973), or sincere (J. Crooks 1998).Socrates speaks his last words to Crito (depending on the translation):

“Crito, we owe a rooster to Asclepius. Please, don’t forget to pay the debt.”


“Crito, we owe a cock to Asclepius, Pay it and do not neglect it.”


“Crito, we owe a cock to Asclepius, make this offering to him and do not forget”

Refused escape

Socrates turned down Crito’s pleas to attempt an escape from prison. Xenophon and Plato agree that Socrates had an opportunity to escape, as his followers were able to bribe the prison guards. There have been several suggestions offered as reasons why he chose to stay:

  1. He believed such a flight would indicate a fear of death, which he believed no true philosopher has.
  2. If he fled Athens his teaching would fare no better in another country, as he would continue questioning all he met and undoubtedly incur their displeasure.
  3. Having knowingly agreed to live under the city’s laws, he implicitly subjected himself to the possibility of being accused of crimes by its citizens and judged guilty by its jury. To do otherwise would have caused him to break his “social contract” with the state, and so harm the state, an unprincipled act.
  4. If he escaped at the instigation of his friends, then his friends would become liable in law.

The full reasoning behind his refusal to flee is the main subject of the CritoIn as much as Socrates drank hemlock willingly without complaint (having decided against fleeing), R.G. Frey (1978) has suggested in truth, Socrates chose to commit suicide.

He didn’t want to escape because he was never at risk of being killed. It was all a Ruse.




A Colorful World (Socrates tells why he is leaving)