№ 31. The Poles Move, Not Continental Glaciers



READER BEWARE: This page is disastrous. It will require an enormous amount of research to finish.




Hapgood’s North Poles

Massive Floodwaters are Responsible for the Erratics

If you really want to know what happened in 9500 BC, read Cataclysm! Compelling Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophe in 9500 BC by D.S. Allan & J.B. Delair). Unlike other more sensational books on the subject, it is a tough, scholarly read. One of the foundation stones of gradualism (or uniformitarianism) is the slow movement of ice sheets over many thousands of years. Allan and Delair are a bulwark against such nonsense. Continental glaciers, otherwise known as ice sheets, do not move. They do not flow like the mountain glaciers you see calving into bodies of water all the time. It is beyond the scope of this website to explain the impossibility of continental glaciers scouring landmasses as the expand and contract. This is one of the primary reasons for reading Cataclysm! Compelling Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophe in 9500 BC. They explain like no one else can the physical impossibility of ice sheets crawling over landmasses.

How do glaciers affect land?

Glaciers not only transport material as they move, but they also sculpt and carve away the land beneath them. A glacier’s weight, combined with its gradual movement, can drastically reshape the landscape over hundreds or even thousands of years. The ice erodes the land surface and carries the broken rocks and soil debris far from their original places, resulting in some interesting glacial landforms.  — NSIDC (National Snow and Ice Data Center)

This simply is not true, and Allan and Delair explain why. The “glacial” erratics and all the other evidence to the contrary is the result of massive floodwaters sweeping over the land as a result of either super tsunamis after the last axial tilt in 9500 BC or the sudden melting of the ice around one of the old North Poles after being bombarded by super-heated, incandescent debris from the birth of Venus (also in 9500 BC) or one of the subsequent near-misses of the comets Venus and Mars.




Earth’s Unnatural North Pole

This is clearly the result of the comet Venus bumping up against Earth’s magnetosphere during what we know of as the biblical Exodus. 

I have no tolerance for anyone who thinks Earth’s Geographic North and Geographic South Poles have never changed. The evidence for this is overwhelming. But I most certainly do understand someone asking, “Why do you think the Earth is going to tilt?” The answer is twofold. The ancients left of plenty of evidence that there were different North Poles in the past, evidence supported by the science of paleomagnetism discussed below. And other than for the past 12,000 years, there is no evidence whatsoever that the Geographic North Pole (hereafter referred to as simply the North Pole) has ever been in its present location before. In fact, all the evidence suggests that historical the North Pole has been closer to the 60th parallel or thereabouts is a much more natural location.


The evidence is overwhelming that the Poles have not covered the same parts of the planet for the entire extent of our geological history.


Rand and Rose Flem-Ath 1996 book In Search of Atlantis ar


The evidence is overwhelming that the great global catastrophes were either accompanied or caused by shifting of the terrestrial axis or by a disturbance in the diurnal and annual motions of the Earth

Immanuel Velikovsky Chapter IX, “Axis Shifted” in Immanuel Velikovsky’s Earth in Upheaval


Position #1: 63 degrees N, 135 degrees W. From the Yukon area of North America at about 80,000 B.P.(before present era) and moving east by 75,000 B.P to the Greenland Sea.


Position #2: 72 degrees N, 10 degrees E. From the Greenland Sea, starting at about 55,000 B.P. and then moving south-west by 50,000 B.P. towards what is now Hudson Bay.



Position #3: 60 degrees N, 73 degrees W. From the Hudson Bay area at about 17,000 B.P. and moving north to its present location by about 12,000 B.P.



Position # 1 — 63 degrees N, 135 degrees W (the Yukon area – 75,000 B.C.)
Position # 2 — 72 degrees N, 10 degrees E (in the Greenland Sea – 50,000 B.C.)
Position # 3 — 60 degrees N, 73 degrees W (the Hudson Bar area – 12,000 B.C.)
Position # 4 — the current position

He argued that each shift took approximately 5,000 years, followed by 20,000- to 30,000-year periods with no polar movements. Also, in his calculations, the area of movement never covered more than 40 degrees. Hapgood’s examples of recent locations for the North Pole include Hudson Bay (60° N, 73° W) , the Atlantic Ocean between Iceland and Norway (72° N, 10° E) and Yukon (63° N, 135° W).

However, in his subsequent work The Path of the Pole, Hapgood conceded Einstein’s point that the weight of the polar ice would be insufficient to bring about a polar shift. Instead, Hapgood argued that the forces that caused the shifts in the crust must be located below the surface. He had no satisfactory explanation for how this could occur.

In Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings (1966) and The Path of the Pole (1970), Hapgood proposed the hypothesis that the Earth’s axis has shifted numerous times during geological history.

In Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings he supported the suggestion made by Arlington Mallery that a part of the Piri Reis Map was a depiction of the area of Antarctica known as Queen Maud Land. He used this map to propose that a 15° pole shift occurred around 9,600 BCE (approx. 11,600 years ago) and that a part of the Antarctic was ice-free at that time, and that an ice-age civilization could have mapped the coast. He concludes that “Antarctica was mapped when these parts were free of ice”, taking that view that an Antarctic warm period coincided with the last ice age in the Northern hemisphere, and that the Piri Reis and other maps were based on “ancient” maps derived from ice-age originals.

Hapgood created his theory documenting three Earth crust displacements in the last 100,000 years. Some researchers believe that they happen every 41,000 years and that the last one happened 11,500 years ago. Hapgood believes that this cataclysmic shift is caused by imbalanced ice at the polar caps. Over time ice builds up at the poles reaching as much as two miles in thickness.



Rune Øverby Pole Locations

Note sure where he gets his data. Image is from the start of his third videos. It has been download to get a better image quality. His playlist is referenced in Catastrophism 101


I stopped loading these. Incorporate them into a video instead. This approach is going to make this page massive heavy.





The Old North Pole

The Old North Pole

I recognized the location because it is very close to Carl Munck’s north pole between 120,000 to 86,000 BC, which has the coordinates of 63 N 135 W. It also has the same 60 N latitude of Carl Munck’s north pole between 48,000 and 18,000 BP. These two periods of time represent 64,000 years of Earth history. Carl Munck has no north pole location for 18,000 to 12,000 BP, but in his discussion of the large Nasca triangle, he does draw a line between Easter Island and Giza. He should have kept going because had he done so, he would have discovered what “Chuck” did when he made this video entitled “The Equator 12,500 years ago?” published on May 24, 2014 by “Chuck” (cfapps7865) of Las Vegas, Nevada:

The Nasca lines tell us that the exact location of this earthquake swarm is the previous North Pole that Carl Munck is missing. Armed with this information we can draw a number of important conclusions. The first is that it has begun. Something is tugging at the normal North Pole location for this planet.  The second is that the current North Pole location is not normal for this planet. It is off by some 30 degrees. This is why the interior design of the Great Pyramid of Giza screams 23.5. This is why the tilt is actually 23.4 now. It is not a stable arrangement, and the planet will correct itself on or before December 21, 2018. It has begun already. That is why we are experiencing this earthquake swarm.


An equal azimuthal projection



The Great Circle

The Great Circle

I revived this page on the new North Pole on November 22, 2017 after becoming aware of the “Great Circle,” (shown above as “an equal azimuthal projection”) which is a name given to the equator when the Great Pyramid of Giza was built. This is not substantially different than what was discussed in the previous section, but for whatever reason this perspective floored me. Apparently, I am a latecomer to this table because I see now that the concept of the “Great Circle” is all over the Internet. And so it may take me awhile to sort out proper attribution for this information. For the time being, I will quote from the (anonymously written) article I initially stumbled across on the coolinterestingstuff.com website.

The projection is centered on the axis point in southeastern Alaska. Distances to any location from the center of an equal azimuthal projection are equally scaled.



Since all of the sites on the great circle alignment are equally distant from the axis point at one quarter of the circumference of the earth, the alignment forms a perfect circle halfway between the center and the outer edge of the projection.



The alignment of these sites is easily observable on a globe of the Earth with a horizon ring. If you line up any two of these sites on the horizon ring, all of the sites will be right on the horizon ring.

3-D world atlas software programs can also draw this line around the Earth.



Start on the Equator, at the mouth of the Amazon River, at 49° 17′ West Longitude; go to 30° 18′ North Latitude, 40° 43′ East Longitude, in the Middle East, which is the maximum latitude the line touches; then go to the Equator at 130° 43′ East Longitude, near the Northwest tip of New Guinea; then to 30° 18′ South Latitude, 139° 17′ West Longitude, in the South Pacific; and then back to 49° 17′ West Longitude, at the Equator.


I will need time to vet this list for significance and accuracy, but for the time being the ancient sites attributed to being on the Great Circle are as follows moving clockwise from the Giza plateau. The most significant sites are highlighted in bold red.


  1. The Great Pyramid of Giza
  2. Siwa
  3. Tassili n’Ajjer
  4. Paratoari
  5. Ollantaytambo
  6. Machupicchu
  7. Nazca lines
  8. Easter Island
  9. Aneityum Island
  10. Preah Vihear
  11. Sukhothai
  12. Pyay
  13. Khajuraho
  14. Mohenjo Daro, the ancient capital city of the Indus Valley
  15. Perseopolis, the capital city of ancient Persia
  16.  The Ancient Sumarian city of Ur
  17. The lost city of Petra


  • The temples at Angkor Wat


All of these sites are said to be “within a margin of error of less than one tenth of one degree of latitude” from the old equator.


The Sun Gate

Carl Munck and the Sun Gate

rewatch CM and find this






The Alaskan earthquake swarm that began May 2, 2017

On May 2, 2017, an earthquake swarm started near the Canadian border at coordinates 60 N 136 W. There were 275 earthquakes that day. I recognized the location immediately. It is an old North Pole location.



The Alaskan earthquake swarm that began May 2, 2017 near the Canadian border is at coordinates 60 N 136 W



Magnitude 2.1 earthquake on November 11, 2017 (as of this writing)







Find rapid movement detected (axial tilt is fast)








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