№ 14. Osiris Myth

 

 

 

The Osirian mysteries…refer to the transformation of Saturn during and following the Deluge. Osiris was not a king but the planet Saturn…   —Immanuel Velikovsky from The Worship of Saturn

 

Get material on Osiris numbers from original Wikipedia subission

Osiris-Djed

 

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This is significant, as the Djed Column represents not only the backbone of the god Osiris

 

 

What we know


Here are the facts as I see them:

  1. EQUAL IN IMPORTANCE:  On the one hand, we have the biggest, most important myth of all time, the Osiris myth. On the other hand, we have the biggest, most important event of all time, the breakup of David Talbott’s Polar configuration. You can add the perfect spice to this by Jno Cook’s date of 3147 BC more or less corresponding to the same timeframe of the Osiris myth (I need to investigate this). These two, the myth and the event, want to be cojoined.
  2. OSIRIS IS SATURN: There is universal agreement on this
  3. SETH IS JUPITER: This is me. Seth Kills Osiris. Seth in darkness comes out of hiding. Jupiter was behind Saturn (from earth’s perspective) in the Polar configuration. Seth Kills Osiris out of jealousy, the jealousy of being overshadowed by the much larger Saturn. They are brothers because they are both gaseous giants, the two biggest planets in the solar system. The “death” is a record of the orbital paths of Jupiter and Saturn crossing and the subsequent explosion (into fourteen parts) of Saturn.
  4. ISIS IS VENUS: I take my lead on this from Jno Cook, but it is also somewhat obvious in the Venus is the only female planet. The work of David Talbott informs us of what a beautiful couple they made. Isis went looking for her dead husband is a reference to the original orbital path of the comet Venus shortly after the breakup of the Polar configuration. That Isis collected thirteen of the missing parts implies that the comet Venus was somehow interacting withSaturn, the debris from the explosion of Saturn, or both.
  5. HORIS IS EITHER MARS OR OUR PRESENT SUN: That Horus is Mars is suggested to me by Jno Cook, but he allows for the distinct possibility that it could be something else. I would like for Peter Joseph of Zeitgeist to be correct in his suggestion that Horus is the Sun, but he is best described as a highly talented video producer. He is decidedly not a mythologist, which is to say he is clearly out of his area of expertise. I can see where David Talbott’s description of Mars moving between Venus and earth could be described as a birth. But I also stand by my original thought that out of the breakup of the Polar configuration, the inferior sun could be seen as being “born.”

I will stay with this subject matter only long enough to determine to my satisfaction that Horus is either the Mars or the Sun.

 

 

Sources:

 

All About Horus: An Egyptian Copy of Christ? (I do not shy away from Catholic sources)

 

Plutarch (/ˈpltɑːrk/GreekΠλούταρχοςPloútarkhosKoine Greek: [plǔːtarkʰos]; c. AD 46 – AD 120), later named, upon becoming a Roman citizenLucius Mestrius Plutarchus, (Λούκιος Μέστριος Πλούταρχος) was a Greek biographer and essayist, known primarily for his Parallel Lives and Moralia.[2] He is classified[3] as a Middle Platonist. Plutarch’s surviving works were written in Greek, but intended for both Greek and Roman readers.  —Wikipedia

Plutarch was a contemporary of the Flavians and therefore no doubt in cahoots with them.

 

 

Osiris is Saturn


Osiris is Saturn, exactly as Immanuel Velikovsky says in Saturn and Jupiter (though I believe, as does everyone else, that he is wrong about Isis):

Peoples that remembered early tragedies enacted in the sky by the heavenly bodies asserted that Jupiter drove Saturn away from its place in the sky. Before Jupiter (Zeus) became the chief god, Saturn (Kronos) occupied the celestial throne. In all ancient religions the dominion passes from Saturn to Jupiter. In Greek mythology, Kronos is presented as the father and Zeus as his son who dethrones him. Kronos devours some of his children. After this act Zeus overpowers his father, puts him in chains, and drives him from his royal station in the sky. In Egyptian folklore or religion the participants of the drama are said to be Osiris-Saturn, brother and husband of Isis-Jupiter.  —Immanuel Velikovsky [bold-red emphasis added]

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But who was Osiris in his life? asked Gardiner. At times “he is represented to us as the vegetation which perishes in the flood-water mysteriously issuing from himself. . . .”(7) He is associated with brilliant light.(8)  —Immanuel Velikovsky from The Worship of Saturn

Footnote seven is interesting:

The connection of Osiris with water or flood-water is frequently stressed both in native Egyptian sources and in reports by classical and early Christian authors. Plutarch (De Iside et Osiride 33. 364f) wrote that the Nile is the “moist principle and power,” that the Nile is the “efflux of Osiris” (39. 366c, 32.363d, 38.366a) and that Osiris is Oceanus (34,364d). Cf. Griffiths, Plutarch’s De Iside et Osiride, pp. 36, 56f., 424. See also Origen, Contra Celsum 5.38; Hippolytus, (Refutatio Omnium Haeresium 5.7.23) reported that the Egyptians “say that Osiris is water.” Cf. also Sallustius, De diis et de mundo, 4. Nock in his commentary to his edition of Sallustius (p. xlviii, n. 44) compared a first century Greek papyrus (P. Leiden J. 384, col. vii, 23) in which it is written “I am Osiris, who is called ‘water.’” The drowning of Osiris, described by Plutarch, is attested in some of the earliest Egyptian hieroglyphic texts. See K. Sethe, Die altaegyptische Pyramidentexte 24D, 615D, 766D; cf. idem, Denkmal Memphitischer Theologie 8, 10b, 19ff., 62ff; H. Gressmann, Tod und Auferstehung des Osiris,pp. 4, 11-12, 39.

 

“shepherd” = leader (planets follow)

Cronus (Saturn)

The crook is thought to represent Osiris as a shepherd god.

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Plato wrote: “Zeus, the mighty lord, holding the reigns of a winged chariot, leads the way in heaven, ordering all and taking care of all.” (Phaedrus 246e, transl. by B. Jowett [1871])

In Tablet VII it is said of Marduk: “For the stars of heaven he upheld the paths, he shepherded all the gods like sheep.”

https://www.varchive.org/itb/jupiter.htm

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Hedjet

use same video clip as bowling ball

I can heartily endorse #1 & #2 below. M.A.

 

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jno:
Osiris is Jupiter. He has a green mantle, Even the Chilam Balam agrees.
He is the traveling mountain. Originally take 9 years to circle the Sun.

 

 

 

Isis is Venus


 

Venus the only female planet

 

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Jno:
Isis as Venus was on a path above Saturn, at about the centroid level
above Neptune (read the Chilam Balam, and note the Palette of Narmer).

There is just no way for Venus, the size of a marble, compared to Saturn,
the size of a basketball to 'collect' 13 parts. And how would these be
collected? vacumed up?

Venus was not ever part of the Polar Configuration. It was Mercury with a
thick atmosphere looking like Venus (even the Olmecs make this mistake).
In antiquity people knew that this planet above Mars was Mercury, by its
crown of spikes. Venus is not magnetic, would not have had spikes.

 

 

Seth is Jupiter


 

 

 

 

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jno:
Jupiter was not "behind Saturn," nor was Jupiter part of the polar
configuration. Jupiter was on a separate orbit, and only in 3147 BC lined
up radially with the Sun, at a distance of 12,000,000 to 14,000,000 miles.
Saturn is positively charged (as a former star) and yanked Saturn from its
orbit.

 

 

Horus is Mars


 

This is Armstrong’s website…need to read it.

The Original Star of Dawn by Dwardu Cardona

 

 

 

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Jno:
Mars is Horus, as Lord Horus. Ask after the hair of Horus, or Horus of the
Horizon (what horizon?) or Hathor as 'the seat of Horus'.

 

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IMO, that Horus was Mars is one of the clearest and cleanest identifications. However, in general, things are not as tidy as you would like them to be. The ancients had names and title for “Aspects” of the planet and their behaviors, and many players shared some of the same aspects. I just don’t find any substantive reason to get to adamant about some of this trivial stuff where it’s not important to a deeper understanding.

 

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I suggest you read D. Cardona’s chapter/article: http://www.ifiseeu.com/venus-mars-myth/star-of-dawn.htm. I quote part of the relevant passages:

“In Worlds in Collision, Velikovsky presented Horus as a personification of Venus, but never throughout Egyptian history was the name Horus ever applied to this planet by the Egyptians themselves. By Graeco-Roman times, Heru- Tesher, i.e. Red Horus, was a name for the planet Mars. But even during the earlier 19th and 20th Dynasties, Mars was known as Heru-Khuti, i.e. Horus Khuti.

“The identification of Horus as Mars is also borne by comparative mythology. Thus, restricting ourselves to the Pyramid Texts in which Horus is called the Morning Star, we also find this deity repeatedly referred to as Horus of the Netherworld. That this is the same Horus is indicated by the utterance: “O Morning Star, Horus of the Netherworld, divine falcon.” When we turn to Mesopotamian mythology, we find that the god of the Netherworld par excellence was none other than Nergal, whose identity as the planet Mars is well known. The identification of Horus as Nergal/Mars is also indicated from the fact that Nergal was addressed as “the avenger of his father” which, in Egypt, was a well known title of Hor-sa-iset, that is Horus the son of Isis, the Harsiesis of the Greeks. There are many other avenues by which Horus can be identified as the planet Mars that will be discussed in the longer version of this paper but, for the time being, what I have enumerated should suffice.”

Michael A.

 

 

 

 

 

Saturn’s Golden Age

The Golden Age of Saturn or Kronos came to its end with the supreme god of that period, the planet Saturn, was broken up.

 

The Deliberate Obfuscation of the Osiris Myth by the Progeny of Jove


The progeny of Jove elevated Zeus (Greek mythology) and Jupiter (Roman mythology) to the top of their pantheons.

foist on later genertion such fables as geradualism and evoulion, they would need to hide the truth of our past. This began in eas=rnset with Plutarch

Quote Plutarch here

 

At this time, Set was not considered evil, it was not until around 100 A.D. that the Romans in Egypt turned Set into a demonic figure[16].

  1. Sarah Iles Johnston, ed. Religions of the Ancient World: A Guide. Cambridge: Harvard University Press. ISBN 0-674-01517-7.

 

 

 

What others think (include Part I of Zeitgeist: The Movie (2007)