№ 38. 3100 BC, Genesis of the Fifth World

 

 

A PERSONAL NOTE: Over six years ago now, I determined to write a book entitled simply “3100 BC”. Instead, I am writing “An Apocalyptic Synthesis” (this website). I collected boxes full of “cross discipline” (read a thinking man’s) notes, a ever growing library of books, and a countless number of Internet bookmarks on the subject convinced that I would eventually figure out what happened. And I did. This page is the result. Back when I began this journey, on of my favorite links was What Really Happened in 3100 BC?

 

 

Genesis 7:4-10
For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth…And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.

 

“…the expression ‘the light of the seven days’ refers, in my view, to the seven days preceding the Flood” ―Immanuel Velikovsky from The Light of the Seven Days

 

 

The Three Great Witnesses


Something unspeakably profound happened around 3100 BC. How do we know this?

I work backward 2160 orbits of Jupiter from December 21, 2018 to the start of the calendar in 23,603 BC. This places the start of the last Great Cycle at 3106 BC, which is in perfect agreement with the ancient Yuga Calendar of India. Such an agreement cannot be easily ignored.

It strongly suggests not only that orbits of Jupiter are the basic unit of measurement used in the design of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, but that what I call the “Great Wayeb” was in fact intended to obfuscate the actual end date

 

The Mesoamerican Long Count Calendar


 

 

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The Yuga Calendar of India


The following paper by Christian Irigaray is the most authoritative work I can find on the start date of the ancient Yuga calendar of India. O downloaded the original PDF from www.academia.edu (awaiting permission)

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In this paper, the author concludes

There is no question from the descriptions offered in the Mahabharata that the date given for the event that signaled turning of the Age is April 20, 3105 BC. It is the only date that matches the planetary configuration of the texts… [emphasis added]

Alternatively, Wikipedia says:

3102 BC—According to calculations of Aryabhata (6th century), the Hindu Kali Yuga began at midnight on 18 February 3102 BC.

 

 

 

Shem did not live to be 600 years old

The genealogies in Genesis are being used to encode the passage of time since Proto-Saturn exploded.

 

Genesis 11: 10-11
These are the generations of Shem: Shem was an hundred years old, and begat Arphaxad two years after the flood: and Shem lived after he begat Arphaxad five hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.

 

 

Scene from the end of 2001: A Space Odyssey

The Genealogy in Genesis


Funny thing about the genealogies in Genesis, people give birth and die on nice rounded numbers such as Shem who gives birth at 100 and dies at 600. And in the genealogy of Shem, Shelah, Peleg, and Serug all give birth at exactly 130 years old, which is just plain weird. I would be remiss if I did not point out that this is emphasizing the number 13. Of course, I am referring to the original text, not the Hebrew Masoretic text (from which Christian Bibles are translated).

(credit Wikipedia)

 

Critical chart of the missing 650 years from the video “Were the Pyramids Built Before the Flood? (Masoretic Text vs. Original Hebrew)” by Nathan Hoffman (NathanH83 channel on YouTube). This video is avilable in the next section.

Even Wikipedia becomes suspect about this.

The period from the birth of Shem’s son to Abraham’s migration to Canaan is 365 years, mirroring Enoch’s life-span of 365 years, the number of days in a year. There are 10 Patriarchs between Adam and the Flood and 10 between the Flood and Abraham

…there were exactly 20 kings in both Judah and Israel following Solomon, despite Judah lasting more than a century longer than Israel. “It seems very likely that [some of the minor kings of Israel] have served simply to make up the numbers“. —Chronology of the Bible (Wikipedia) [bold-red emphasis added]

The rededication of the Temple by Maccabean forces in 164 BCE is the starting date that must be used to work backward in time and make any practical use of these genealogies for dating events in history. Interestingly, when this Jewish account finally gets to an actual date, the numbers no longer round so nicely. The first step backward is the 374 years between the Edict of Cyrus (538 BCE) and the re-dedication of the Temple.

So what are all these begats really about?

One thing I can tell you for sure, the Jews are NOT trying to provide a “creation date” for James Ussher or any other “Young Earth” Christians

Sorry, I have little patience for these people. And I damned sure don’t care if they are offended by anything I say.

The only other major event between the rededication of the temple and “creation” is Noah, the biblical Flood.  That is what is being encoded by the genealogies in Genesis. At the end of Nathan Hoffman’s amazing video in the next section, he asks the question,

Who changed theirs?

“Theirs” is a reference to the Hebrew Masoretic text (from which Christian Bibles are translated). The answer to who changed the genealogies, erasing 650 years from Genesis is not the question. The question is, Why? Why did they change the text. Hoffman thinks he knows why, and maybe he is right. But if he is right about the Masoretes changing the text so that they could prove that Christ Jesus was not the much-awaited Jewish Messiah, they had another, more subtle reason. They are hiding the actual date of the biblical Deluge. What they are doing is no different than what the designers of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar did when they obfuscated their design and the actual end date.  There is a little quirk in the text that I think is meant to send a message to the reader. Here is the relevant discussion from Wikipedia’s Chronology of the Bible:

It seems possible that the period of the Flood is not meant to be included in the count[23]—for example, Shem, born 100 years before the Flood, “begot” his first son two years after it, which should make him 102, but Genesis 11:10–11 specifies that he is only 100, suggesting that time has been suspended.

Is this really a mistake? I don’t think so. I think it is comparable to the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar ending on December 16, 2013, five days before the Winter Solstice. I think it is designed to draw your attention to what happened in the time of Noah. By the time Nathan Hoffman gets done extending biblical Deluge back 650 years from 2350 BC, he is at 3000 BC. Not in precise agreement with the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar and the Yuga calendar of India, but close enough that I do not feel the need to try to improve upon his math.

 

 

 

 

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The Jupiter Myth


I think David Talbott and The Thunderbolts Project have gone off the rails. This is why they are placing all their emphasis on the electric universe. It also explains why they are unwilling to put a date on the explosion of Proto-Saturn. The Jupiter Myth is the way forward.

http://www.mythsarehistory.com/the-jupiter-myth.html

The Jupiter Myth (Preliminary Preview) -Part 1- Conjunction of Opposites

The Jupiter Myth (Preliminary Preview) -Part 2- Catastrophe & Creation / The Silver Age Cosmos

The Jupiter Myth (Preliminary Preview) – Part 3 – Clash of the Titans / The Dragon & The Serpent

from the Myths are History YouTube channel

 

 

 

The polar configuration of the planets at midnight with Proto-Saturn in the background

Proto-Saturn Defined


What does Proto-Saturn mean?  This is a term invented by David Talbott of The Thunderbolts Project™. Here is the definition of proto-:

proto

Proto-Saturn is the planet Saturn when it was our primordial sun before exploding and being removed to a distant orbit (i.e. before it became the planet we know of today). Proto-Saturn was much larger than it is today, larger even than Jupiter and it had no rings. It was part of what David Talbott calls the Polar Configuration of the planets. If you are not familiar with the Polar Configuration, you can read about it in the Archetypes and the Polar Configuration in particular of the Catastrophism 101 page.

 

 

 

 

 

Supernova Explosion (“Let there be light”)

Why I use the Word “Explode”


I have elevated this discussion to a separate section because I have been attacked more than once for using the word “explode” to explain what happened to Saturn. And no less than Jno Cook, for whom I have great respect, has vehemently questioned my linking of the fourteen pieces of Osiris to the aftermath of that explosion. Yet the following quote is from Saturn’s Golden Age written by the man I think we should all pay homage, for without him we would not know anything about the real history of our solar system:

Saturn exploded and caused the Earth to go through the greatest of its historical catastrophes, and this was completely sufficient to make of Saturn the supreme deity; but it appears that the Age of Saturn is a name for the epoch before the Deluge; after the Deluge Saturn, dismembered, almost ceased to exist as a planetary body and when at length it was reconstituted it was fettered by rings, and was far from being the dominant celestial body that would behoove it as the supreme deity of the epoch.  —Immanuel Velikovsky [bold-red emphasis added]

Velikovsky in not unacquainted with the term nova. He article entitled simply Nova seems designed to emphasis this fact and to show how “normal” novas should not be confused with what happened immediately prior to and during the biblical deluge. Yet he characterizes what happened as an explosion. Perhaps, as Velikovsky suggests, what “exploded” was the water (as opposed to the light of a nova).

Does not this sound like the Osiris myth? And, even if it sounds to our modern sensibilities outlandish, should we not allow ourselves to be informed as to what happened by the eyewitnesses? Elsewhere, in Saturn and Jupiter, he says:

On becoming a nova, it ejected filaments in all directions and the solar system became illuminated as if by a hundred suns. It subsided rather quickly and retreated into far-away regions.  —Immanuel Velikovsky

Perhaps this close to Earth, the filaments were visible. Or perhaps they were Saturn’s asteroids and comets. Whatever it was, water, filaments, asteroids, or comets, Saturn appeared to have exploded before it went nova. I stand behind my use of the word.

What caused the explosion? Here is what Immanuel Velikovsky has to sat in Saturn and Jupiter:

As told, the picture that emerges from comparative folklore and mythology presents Saturn and Jupiter in vigorous interactions. Suppose that these two bodies approached each other rather closely at one time, causing violent perturbations and huge tidal effects in each other’s atmospheres. Their mutual disturbance led to a stellar explosion, or nova. As we have seen, a nova is thought to result from an instability in a star, generated by a sudden influx of matter, usually derived from its companion in a binary system. If what we call today Jupiter and Saturn are the products of such a sequence of events, their appearance and respective masses must formerly have been quite different.

A scenario such as this would explain the prominence of Saturn prior to its cataclysmic disruption and dismemberment—it must have been a larger body than it is now, possibly of the volume of Jupiter. Interestingly, for certain reasons G. Kuiper assumed that Saturn originally was of a mass equal to that of Jupiter. At some point during a close approach to Jupiter, Saturn became unstable; and, as a result of the influx of extraneous material, it exploded, flaring as a nova which, after subsiding, left a remnant that the ancients still recognized as Saturn, even though it was but a fraction of the celestial body of earlier days. In Saturn’s explosion much of the matter absorbed earlier was thrown off into space. Saturn was greatly reduced in size and removed to a distant orbit—the binary system was broken up and Jupiter took over the dominant position in the sky.

Saturn could be removed only by the planet Jupiter, the sole member of the planetary family more powerful than Saturn. And indeed, the myth says that Saturn was removed by Jupiter.  —Immanuel Velikovsky

 

 

 

Notice that I have said nothing about Proto-Saturn “encountering” or being “captured” by the sun.

I profoundly disagree with Wallace Thornhill and the electric universe school of thought; Proto-Saturn was not “captured” by the Sun. Mankind did not live in relative darkness for countless generations. The Zodiac and the Mesoamerican calendars argue against this possibility.  The implications of this are nothing less than mind-boggling.

I will return to these “implications” momentarily. But first, it is imperative to address the electric universe’s notion that Proto-Saturn was “captured” by the sun. From the moment I first heard I thought to myself, “This new crop of thinkers can make mistakes as grand as the last.” I fear the reason for this is something buried deep in the human psyche. We insist on being originators. We lack the imagination to place ourselves in what would seem to us to be an infinitely long progression. In short, everything must be recent. It is a sort of deeply ingrained egotism.

The very same essentially narcissistic thought that gave rise to the idea of a Big Bang would now have us believe that Proto-Saturn was “captured” by the sun and that the change from the polar configuration to the present arrangment of the planets is the first time our solar system has ever reconfigured itself in response to extrasolar electromagnetic forces such as our binary dance with the Sirius star system

If we can interpret myth why can we not simply listen to what the ancients are telling us? This has happened before. It will happen again. The Mayans referred to it as a “Great Cycle” every 432 orbits of Jupiter. Every 2160 orbits of Jupiter something even more spectacular happens. The ancient Greeks called it the “Ekpyrosis”

When in the polar configuration as opposed to the present configuration of the planets, there are two suns. Wallace Thornhill says this much in the very same video from which the above image was taken. At 2:15 minutes into the video he says”

“In my home in Australia, the original inhabitants have legends of a time when there were two suns, a greater and a lesser sun” —Wallace Thornhill

Here is the critical question:

If the polar configuration survived for what must have been hundreds if not thousands of years within the sun’s heliosphere, on what basis does the electric universe school of thought rule out the possibility that the polar configuration is not normal for our solar system. Why do they assume it could have been only short-lived and that Proto-Saturn must have been “captured” by the sun?

 

 

 

 

Proto-Saturn NOT Captured by the Sun


See also The Still Misunderstood Sheer Genius of Immanuel Velikovsky

The following video discusses Earth’s supposed “capture” by the Sun. There must be another reason for the flare-up, such as a galactic superwave (at the start he says Thornhill addresses the same topic in EU2014 find it)

 

I find this to be an absurd notion. The ice core temperature record does not support this, neither does Immanuel Velikovsky:

If there is truth in the surmise, and nothing more it is than a surmise, that the Earth was once a satellite of Saturn, the latter must have revolved closer to the sun in order that the Earth should receive heat from it—Saturn exudes little heat—and if the age of Kronos was a golden age, then it is also proper to assume that the conditions on the satellite Earth were not unfavorable for life.   —Immanuel Velikovsky from Saturn’s Golden Age

I have serious misgivings about Jergens’ theory that Proto-Saturn flared because the polar configuration was “captured” by the Sun. Who am I to fault the EU team, but I find this absurd. Whatever happened in the 9500 BC timeframe interrupted a 100,000 year, heartbeat-like temperature cycle right as it was approaching an interglacial peak. The ice cores tell us that Earth’s Holocene temperature record thereafter is only two degrees centigrade off the peak it never reached and only eight degrees centigrade (14.4° Fahrenheit) warmer than the lowest recorded temperatures over the past 400,000 years.

Common sense is lacking here. How can you add a yellow dwarf (the Sun) into the equation and only end up with an eight-degree centigrade difference in temperature? That defies logic. Whatever caused Proto-Saturn to flare must be something else, such as one of LaViolette’s galactic superwaves.

Now look at the ice core temperature record for this planet:

Look a little closer:

temperature fluctuation

 

Earth stabilizes within a few centigrades of the so-called “interglacial” (another subject) peaks of the previous solar system configuration. The new temperature norm is so close to the old range that I cannot agree that Proto-Saturn was “captured” by the Sun. The Sun has always been at the center of the solar system. This is the message of there being 144 Jose solar cycles in the Mesoamerican (misnamed “Mayan”) Long Count calendar.

 

 

 

CUT FROM DELETED ICE CORE TEMPERATURE RECORDS….

 

Adam and Eve

The Beginning of Our World


If you look at the “δD versus age” (top) chart above, you will see that for about 400,000 years through four different ice ages the temperature record was as regular as a heartbeat. About every 100,000 years there is an interglacial period. Clearly nothing as dramatic as a reconfiguration of the planets in the solar system happened during this time. That leaves only the recent past in which this could have happened because had the giants died over 400,000 years ago their skeletons would not be so close to the surface. In fact, had they died that long ago, there would be no giant skeletons at any depth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The polar configuration viewed from Earth

Nothing will ever be the same


Earth has two pasts now. One is gone and will never return. That was the world spoken of by David Talbott in which Proto-Saturn was our primary Sun. This has profound implications for the correct interpretation of our planet’s temperature record. Most import of all is that the Milankovitch Cycles cannot be projected back in time to explain glaciation. As another example, the following quote from Wikipedia is completely meaningless when you stop to consider that 400,000 years ago Earth was part of the polar configuration. Why? Because Earth was on a completely different orbital path. So the “orbital parameters” 400,000 years ago were completely different. Everything was.

The interglacial 400 kyr ago, which is believed (from arguments about the configuration of the orbital parameters of the earth) to be an approximate analogue to the current interglacial, was quite long: 28 kyr. The Nature paper argues that if this analogue is accepted, the current climate would be expected to continue like today’s, in the absence of human influence (which it states is unlikely, given the predicted increases in greenhouse gas concentrations). —Wikipedia

Prior to the stabilization of the present configuration of the planets, which clearly did not happen until after 747 BC,

This is our world

our world

 

See also

 

 

 

 

 

Research Notes


 

“something came close enough to Earth to melt rock”
https://phys.org/news/2013-05-mammoth-lament-cosmic-impact-devastating.html

 

Czech Mate – “Confirmation” of the Younger Dryas impact event

 

 

King Tutankhamun’s dagger

Bronze Age Iron Weapons

https://www.rt.com/news/412053-bronze-age-meteorite-iron/

 

1200 BC

 

 

 

Thanks Catherine. I have a copy of Forgotten Civilization: The Role of Solar Outbursts in Our Past and Present and have added it to my read list for solving this problem. The thing that is exciting about “solar flare” resources is that they potentially support a local nova such as Proto-Saturn exploding, I would especially say this about the Paul A LaViolette resource Joshua Roberts provided (above) at https://journals.uair.arizona.edu/…/viewFile/3464/pdf. I very seriously doubt that either he or Schoch have considered that their physical evidence could be traced back to an explosion of Proto-Saturn rather than a super flare coming from our current Sun.

https://journals.uair.arizona.edu/index.php/radiocarbon/article/viewFile/3464/pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The polar configuration

  • Mesopotamia could not have survived so intact. The same could be said about the other cultures mention in the “See also” not above COMPARE TO 9500 DAMAGE AREA
  • supported by all the advanced thinkers on the subject including notably David Talbott of The Thunderbolts Project™ and Wallace Thornhill of the Electric Universe, and Jno Cook
  • start dates of the two ancient calendars

 

 

The Festival of the Lights


From The Light of the Seven Days

The world was in a dazzling light, sevenfold stronger than the light of the sun; the light was so strong and so brilliant day and night alike, that the sun was entirely overpowered by it; and in the days of Isaiah, thousands of years later, the memory of the light of the seven days was vivid in tradition, so that the prophet could refer to it in desiring to describe the solar light of the messianic age. —Immanuel Velikovsky

Indeed, 3100 BC would be “thousands of years later,” for Isaiah (c. 740-681 BC) who said “The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard”

This is the essentially the same “common sense” argument as the giant skeletons being found near the surface. The remembrance of the seven days of light is so vivid in the memory of peoples all over the world that it is difficult to imagine the actual event as having been significantly earlier than 3100 BC.

Greg jay’s Festival of the Lights:

MUST READ OFF OF THIS IN E LIGHT OF THE BREAKUP ACTUALLY CAUSING THE FLOOD;

https://www.varchive.org/itb/index.htm

As described by Immanuel Velikovsky, “At a date that I would be hard put to task to identify even with approximation, but possibly about than [sic] ten thousand years ago, Saturn was disturbed by Jupiter and exploded, actually became a nova. The solar system and reaches beyond it were illuminated by the exploded star, and in a matter of a week the earth was enveloped in waters of Saturnian origin.” (https://www.varchive.org/ce/sattot.htm).

At some point during a close approach to Jupiter, Saturn became unstable; and, as a result of the influx of extraneous material, it exploded, flaring as a nova which, after subsiding, left a remnant that the ancients still recognized as Saturn, even though it was but a fraction of the celestial body of earlier days. In Saturn’s explosion much of the matter absorbed earlier was thrown off into space.  From https://www.varchive.org/itb/satjup.htm

 

 

 

 

Giant Skeletons Found Near the Surface


The Giant Skeletons are a Neutral Issue quote Bible, a different race that naturally died out in the new gravity. This tells us nothing except that their skeletons are being found near the surface. Primarily in North America where erosion could explain depth but their bunkers were still on the surface. Conflicting evidence

Potential Key: Compare depth of skeleton finds to the depth the moai were buried on Easter Island.

The mounds described in Carl Munck’s “The Code” were highly accessible underground bunkers occupied by the giants and designed to protect them from this intermittent death from the sky. They built close to water sources to minimize their time outside during these “death from above” events. The fact that their exterior design encodes their location was probably little more than what we think of as addresses that were useful in tracking who dies and who was still alive. Not all of them did survive. In his book The Ancient Giants who Ruled America, author Richard J. Dehurst paints a vivid picture of one group of giants found huddled in a circle inside their protective mound. They all died together. This archeological evidence brings us spitting close to their reality.

“the sun rose in the west and set in the east” cannot be Proto-Saturn

This appllies to both the seven days and the Book of Enoch

The Talmud says it was an Axial Tilt


“Seven days before the deluge, the Holy One changed the primeval order and the sun rose in the west and set in the east”

Google search for same…

https://www.google.com.ec/search?biw=1598&bih=715&ei=3posWrTNOJeajwPQl7GgBQ&q=%E2%80%9CSeven+days+before+the+deluge%2C+the+Holy+One+changed+the+primeval+order+and+the+sun+rose+in+the+west+and+set+in+the+east%E2%80%9D+&oq=%E2%80%9CSeven+days+before+the+deluge%2C+the+Holy+One+changed+the+primeval+order+and+the+sun+rose+in+the+west+and+set+in+the+east%E2%80%9D+&gs_l=psy-ab.3…22952.22952.0.24539.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0….0…1c.2.64.psy-ab..1.0.0….0.nPQ3tcdy2L8

MULTIPLE SOURCES….

https://books.google.com/books?id=FJst27kSVBgC&pg=PA124&lpg=PA124&dq=%E2%80%9CSeven+days+before+the+deluge,+the+Holy+One+changed+the+primeval+order+and+the+sun+rose+in+the+west+and+set+in+the+east%E2%80%9D&source=bl&ots=Aio9BnmhyY&sig=-wn5VSIA3pwggQNXdmJ1w5vcjVY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDrfL9lNLeAhUO7qwKHRivBTcQ6AEwAXoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=%E2%80%9CSeven%20days%20before%20the%20deluge%2C%20the%20Holy%20One%20changed%20the%20primeval%20order%20and%20the%20sun%20rose%20in%20the%20west%20and%20set%20in%20the%20east%E2%80%9D&f=false

Enoch Says It was an Axial Tilt


The Book of Enoch

Note that chapter numbers seem to vary by translation. The Book of Enoch can be read as Noah perceiving an axial tilt and boardig ship before the super tsunamis that follow.

LXIV

64

LXV

65

FROM http://destination-yisrael.biblesearchers.com/destination-yisrael/2010/08/as-in-the-days-of-noah-the-earth-tilted-and-became-inclined-and-sudden-destruction-came-upon-the-ear.html

If it were not for the Book of Enoch, we would not have any Hebrew textual or scriptural precedent for many of the apocalyptic phrases in the John’s Apocalypse of Revelation.  So when the days of the coming of the Messiah are foretold, let us look at what happened to this planet earth as stated in the Book of Enoch.

 

Book of Enoch – “In those days, Noah saw that the earth became inclined, and that destruction approached.”

According to the Book of Enochjust before the flood of Noah,this planet earth tilted on its axis or as the text says, it “became inclined.”  Compare this text with another Hebrew book, also not found in the Biblical canon but was quoted from in the Old Testament.  This book was called the Megillah (Scroll) of Yashir (Jasher) and compared its description with the Book of Revelation.

Jasher 6:1 – “And on that day (Flood), the Lord causedthe whole earth to shake, and the sun darkened, and the foundations of the world rages, and the whole earth was moved violently, and the lightning flashed and the thunder roared, and all the fountains in the earth were broken up….”

Revelation 12-14 – “I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood, and the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.”

FROM http://book-ofenoch.com/chapter-64-sect-xi/

Chapter 64 [SECT. XI.]

1. In those days Noah saw that the earth became inclined, and that destruction approached.

2. Then he lifted up his feet, and went to the ends of the earth, to the dwelling of his great-grandfather Enoch.

3. And Noah cried with a bitter voice, Hear me; hear me; hear me: three times. And he said, Tell me what is transacting upon earth; for the earth labours, and is violently shaken. Surely I shall perish with it.

FROM http://www.livius.org/sources/about/1-enoch/ (GOOD OVERVIEW)

This complex work was extremely influential and is very important. It is the oldest known Jewish apocalyptic text -older than the canonical book of Daniel

FROM

BOOK OF ENOCH

Also known as 1 Enoch, or Ethiopian Enoch
Translated by R. H. Charles

BOOK OF ENOCH

Also known as 1 Enoch, or Ethiopian Enoch
Translated by Richard Laurence

Chapter 65, LXV Chapter 64, LXIV
1. And in those days Noah saw the earth that it had sunk down and its destruction was nigh. 1. In those days Noah saw that the earth became inclined, and that destruction approached.
3. And I said unto him: ‘ Tell me what it is that is falling out on the earth And he said, Tell me what is transacting upon the earth; for the earth labours,
that the earth is in such evil plight and shaken, and is violently shaken.

FROM https://www.ccel.org/c/charles/otpseudepig/enoch/ENOCH_2.HTM

BOOK OF ENOCH

From-The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament
H.R. Charles Oxford: The Clarendon Press

[Chapter 65]

1, 2 And in those days Noah saw the earth that it had sunk down and its destruction was nigh. And he arose from thence and went to the ends of the earth, and cried aloud to his grandfather Enoch: 3 and Noah said three times with an embittered voice: Hear me, hear me, hear me.’ And I said unto him: ‘ Tell me what it is that is falling out on the earth that the earth is in such evil plight 4 and shaken, lest perchance I shall perish with it ?

FROM http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe068.htm

The Book of Enoch, by R.H. Charles, [1917], at sacred-texts.com


LXV. Enoch foretells to Noah the Deluge and his own Preservation.

CHAPTER LXV.

1. And in those days Noah saw the earth that it had sunk down and its destruction was nigh. 2. And he arose from thence and went to the ends of the earth, and cried aloud to his grandfather Enoch: and Noah said three times with an embittered voice: Hear me, hear me, hear me.’ 3. And I said unto him: ‘Tell me what it is that is falling out on the earth that the earth is in such evil plight and shaken, lest perchance I shall perish with it?’

FROM http://wesley.nnu.edu/index.php?id=2126

Book of Enoch

From-The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament R.H. Charles Oxford: The Clarendon Press

[Chapter 65]

1, 2 And in those days Noah saw the earth that it had sunk down and its destruction was nigh. And he arose from thence and went to the ends of the earth, and cried aloud to his grandfather Enoch: 3 and Noah said three times with an embittered voice: Hear me, hear me, hear me.’ And I said unto him: ‘ Tell me what it is that is falling out on the earth that the earth is in such evil plight 4 and shaken, lest perchance I shall perish with it ‘

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The Book of Enoch
(aka 1 Enoch, or Ethiopic Enoch)

Translated by George H. Schodde (1882)

The Book of Enoch ~ Chapter 65        {Top}
65:1  65:1 And in those days Noah saw the earth that it was curved, and that its destruction was near.65:2 And he lifted up his feet from there, and went to the ends of the earth, and called to his grandfather Enoch;  RHC   RL 
65:3and Noah said with a bitter voice: “Hear me! hear me! hear me!” three times.65:3 And he said to him: “Tell me what is it that has been done on the earth, that the earth is so tired out  RHC   RL 
65:4and shaken? May I not be destroyed with it!

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Timaeus

But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island.

Critias

earthquakes and “excessive rain washed away the earth and laid bare the rock; at the same time there were earthquakes, and then occurred the extraordinary inundation, which was the third before the great destruction of Deucalion.”

The Laws, Book III,

deluges and pestilences, and in many other ways, and of the survival of a remnant?

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